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[–]koske 31 points32 points ago

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don't buy oil and diamonds either.

[–]WowWeed[S] 4 points5 points ago

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Unfortunately, we don't get much of a choice on oil, it is in everything we buy. I don't buy diamonds though, I never really understood the attraction other than they're "rare" :P

[–]Hesperus 12 points13 points ago

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we don't get much of a choice

Yes, you do, it's just not easy enough for you to want to make it.

[–]bullhead2007 13 points14 points ago

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you realize that the computer you use, the TV you use, anything plastic, and a lot of medical tools need oil right? The only way to boycott oil is to live on a farm like a quaker.

[–]Hesperus 14 points15 points ago

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The point, he gets it!

[–]bullhead2007 5 points6 points ago

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Well yeah, you're right. I'm just saying there's no way to get rid of oil, because not enough people will live like a Quaker just to spite the middle east.

[–]ismokeblunts 4 points5 points ago

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Hemp can be used to make plastic.

[–]dank4tao 1 point2 points ago

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And cars!

[–]smokin4fake 1 point2 points ago

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and weed

[–]Hesperus 0 points1 point ago

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there's no way to get rid of oil

Is that related at all to anyone's point?

[–]androohoops -1 points0 points ago

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yes, if oil ceased to exist, people would stop dying over it.

[–]jeradj 1 point2 points ago

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Well, first, they would die a whole lot more for the lack of it, and then maybe they'd stop dying over it.

[–]powercow 0 points1 point ago

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most of our ferts are petroleum based.

[–]ismokeblunts 1 point2 points ago

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Good thing the PLANET supplies its own fertilizers

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[–]nolemonnomelon 0 points1 point ago

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right, but you must agree it's "not much of one" like wowweed originally said.

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[–]nolemonnomelon 0 points1 point ago

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do you know what the expression "that's not much of a choice" means? if one choice is obviously worse and much more difficult for a number of reasons, your decision is essentially made for you.

[–]pahncrd -1 points0 points ago

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You first? :P

[–]Hesperus -4 points-3 points ago

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I'm not the one pretending to be better than anyone else and making excuses when I realize I'm not.

[–]pahncrd 7 points8 points ago

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The way I figure it, if you can even make one positive change, then that is something at least. I never understood the mentality that it had to be all or nothing for some action to be relevant.

If you are just commenting on people acting smug, then yes, that shit gets old.

[–]WowWeed[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I said I wasn't buying a particular type of weed. Weed I can go without. Unfortunately, I can't go along not buying a single product that has any type of plastic.

Here is a list of 144 every day products that have some sort of oil in them.

http://www.ranken-energy.com/Products%20from%20Petroleum.htm

[–]sli 3 points4 points ago

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Holy shit. Motor oil has oil in it??

[–]Silverback 1 point2 points ago

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Weed I can go without.

I would rather live without plastic.

[–]Hesperus 1 point2 points ago

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Oh, wow, you aren't going to buy shitty weed anymore. You're going to hurt your shoulder if you keep patting yourself on the back that hard.

[–]nolemonnomelon 1 point2 points ago

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did you recently discover your wife was cheating on you?

[–]Hesperus -4 points-3 points ago

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Looks like a whole bunch of shit you don't need to live.

[–]sli 0 points1 point ago

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I don't know about you, but I need my shag rugs. The ladies dig shag rugs.

[–]WowWeed[S] 0 points1 point ago

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yep, going to give up my eyeglasses and toothbrush to satisfy the requests of a troll on reddit.

[–]Hesperus 1 point2 points ago

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I'm not telling or even asking you to.

You just have to realize that you do have a choice, you're just unwilling to make it. You like your cushy life, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, you just have to get over yourself and admit it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Diamonds aren't rare. They are just controlled by evil, manipulative companies who get to tell the rest of us how much to pay.

[–]davy_crockett 0 points1 point ago

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Diamonds is a pretty well-regulated commodity now. There's a mark that you can look for to prove that a diamond you buy isn't a blood diamond.

[–]anthonytaurus 8 points9 points ago

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I stopped buying Mexican marijuana a loooong time ago for more reasons than the one posted in the article. Quality assurance, pesticides, etc etc etc.

[–]f00sion 6 points7 points ago

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living in california and buying from a dispensary is it safe to say nothing comes from mexico?

[–]newaccount1111 1 point2 points ago

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In general, sure. But the cartels do employ a lot of growers up in NorCal. Just make sure you aren't buying the standard mexican bricked variety and you'll do us all a favor. Thank you!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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You can ask someone that runs the dispensary; I'm sure they have to keep records of where their supply comes from.

[–]ismokeblunts 6 points7 points ago

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They usually dont. Most dispensaries buy from regular growers who may or may not be legal.

[–]arthum 8 points9 points ago

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This is ridiculous. How much will it take for the two governments to at least try lifting the prohibition and legalizing the drugs that fund these cartels? I just don't understand how reasonable people can be pushing and supporting anti-drug laws while this continues to happen.

[–]sli 13 points14 points ago

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They twist it the wrong way. They see the violence as proof positive that they need stricter laws.

[–]arthum 1 point2 points ago

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Sad, isn't it? And I'm sure politicians are being lobbied, too, so that even if their reasoning and mindset is one of pro-legalization, the people who give the donations to their campaigns are anti-legalization. I wonder who wins that battle between sound reasoning and a fat paycheck...

[–]skratch 2 points3 points ago

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Drugs are legal in Mexico, at least in small amounts. This includes heroin and coke.

[–]ismokeblunts 1 point2 points ago

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It also includes LSD but ONLY 15ug lol

[–]arthum 1 point2 points ago

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Yes, but much more needs to be done in order for this to be effective. First of all, the U.S. needs to follow suit. And the production of drugs needs to be regulated by the government. For example, if a drug producer wants to sell legally, they must acquire a license and be subjected to regulations, just like with alcohol and tobacco. If these drugs are, in turn, distributed and sold in legal shops and at a competitive price, the business of the cartels would dissipate. This is because no one in their right mind would choose to buy from a shady dealer--the way things are done now--when they could just go to the neighborhood shop to purchase weed. The governments need much bigger, braver steps in order to completely do away with the cartels and their business. By becoming their competitors, people will opt for a cleaner, regulated outlet for drugs.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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I agree entirely, however I don't think the cartels will give up their business that easily.

My guess is the owner of the first shop to sell weed legally will end up beside the police chief.

[–]arthum 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah, I can imagine that they may not back down easily. But this is all speculation, of course. We should just fucking try it to see. Y'know, kinda how we tried prohibiting alcohol for a few years. We've had a few decades of the war on drugs... let's now try legalizing drugs to see if things improve. It won't be an automatic fix, but I just can't foresee that the cartels would have the resources and the balls to kill all the shop owners.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Definitely, anything would seem to be better than what we're doing now.

[–]SubGothius 2 points3 points ago

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Not to mention how the cartel violence is a major motivator driving illegal immigration. If you or, worse, your family is starving, unable to find work, and risking death by gunfire or other violence on a regular or even daily basis, then risking your life to cross the border and then the desert for a day or two starts seeming like a really appealing idea, nothing to lose at least.

[–]zzaaxx -1 points0 points ago

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Do you really think after legalization of drugs cartel will start acting like Good Samaritan?

[–]arthum 0 points1 point ago

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Of course not. If they are bad people by nature—which they have to be in order to fucking decapitate someone and leave them in a pickup truck for days—there's nothing that can magically turn them good. But they are making a living right now because of drug trafficking. If we take that away from them, no one can say what will happen since no one can predict the future. But who wouldn't want to take away their lifeline? The alternative is leaving things as they are now—Ciudad Juárez is the most violent city in Mexico, the borderlands are a fucked up mess, and no one wants to touch the problem. How does that sound?

[–]clownprince_ 6 points7 points ago*

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Commented here earlier, deleted comments. Live a few miles from the texas/mexico border (the valley)

I talk about this so much with friends family that it gives me migraines, daily..

but I just found that my friend's two uncles were just killed... the same way as this police officer.

This is getting out of hand...

Wtf are we doing in Afghanistan when there's so much evil going on in our own backyard?

[–]sharked 11 points12 points ago

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I don't think I've ever seen good mexican weed anyway. Its always bricked up dirt.

[–]lonjerpc 11 points12 points ago

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I think this is a common misconception. Many people are getting Mexican weed believing it is domestic stuff.

[–]streetwalker 1 point2 points ago

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We've general have decent 1-hit mexican going around, and some of it is damned tasty. It's not blueberry or anything, but around here it seems to be all we can get. (frickin midwest)

[–]SubGothius 2 points3 points ago

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Down here about an hour's drive from the border, the Mexican stuff is always fresh and fluffy, tasty and fragrant (albeit not "some serious gourmet shit"), plentiful and reasonably potent considering you can get a quarter for $20.

I think the quality of Mexiweed declines with distance from the border, as it repeatedly undergoes various smuggling techniques (compression, odor-masking, etc.) to get that far, prolly stored in a stash-house at some point along the way for who-knows how long and undergone who-knows what levels of decomposition whilst there, etc.

[–]m1kael 0 points1 point ago

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That is a sad area of the midwest.. definitely not the norm.

[–]streetwalker 0 points1 point ago*

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what would the norm be? There is good home grown to be had, but it is hard to come by and in short supply.

[–]Bascome 3 points4 points ago

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So two governments declare war on farmers and label the farmers criminals. They then hound the farmers for decades and chase them deep underground in places of the world full of violence. The farmers learn well the lessons of violence and return to properly fight a war thrust on them by the exact agents they are now returning fire on.

At the end of these decades the huffington post shows up with a spotlight and shines it exactly how when and why it wants to formulate the conclusion it desires.

My view is this is a war, they declared it, the police chief knew it. I am on the farmers side. I am sure they wish there did not have to be violence about this issue but it is not the Mexican farmers that decided the issue would be solved with violence.

This issue has been handled badly for over 80 years, to show up at the end and point a finger and assume you have it right is foolish.

[–]Kloster 2 points3 points ago

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As a Mexican, this is sad but what saddens me the most is that it's no longer shocking.

[–]youmademedoit 4 points5 points ago

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I absolutely agree. Buy it locally and support your community. Or better yet grow it yourself. Be careful though and watch out for the police.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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There's the rub. How do you know it's grown in some guy's spare bedroom? Most people aren't willing to take the risk of getting busted for having a grow operation, and even if they were, getting it right takes a lot of experience and effort.

[–]LeNoir 1 point2 points ago

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¡Gracias! We would appreciate if you stopped buying Mexican drugs very very much.

[–]munchiedave 1 point2 points ago

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Buy local don't support this shit.

[–]dkramer73 1 point2 points ago

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There are now a lot of Mexican cartel grow operations in the United States. Unless you are buying from the grower, or you trust your dealer to know the grower personally, how do you really know where your weed comes from?

[–]f45tEddie 1 point2 points ago

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When's the last time a Budweiser employee decapitated a police chief?

[–]Modestbrad 0 points1 point ago

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Is this really about weed? Did I miss that in the article? I assumed all that shit down there was about hard drugs like ICE or Heroin.

[–]arthum 5 points6 points ago

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The cartels make a majority of their money from marijuana. They do also traffic hard drugs, but weed is their cash cow.

[–]Demonithese 1 point2 points ago

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i just don't get how they make so much off it, i assume they're main state they export to is CA, and mexican brickweed is seriously the low-end shit. Nobody i even know smokes it, and this is Cali, where the green river of great ganja flows.

[–]dutchmastor 2 points3 points ago

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Because most people don't have the money to be spending $300+ on a good O of high grade. Brick weed is cheap and most of the time is still decent enough to get you pretty high. It's like $65 for regs and $90 an O for zonas.

I prefer regs/mids over highgrade these days. The designer shit these days is just to strong for me.

[–]Hesperus 0 points1 point ago

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Smoke less?

[–]dutchmastor 0 points1 point ago

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The only times that are still smoke are at parties. For that atmosphere I prefer a decent quality mids over the high quality weed. I think that brick weed burns better in blunts and doesn't get you so stoned that you are anti-social at parties.

I would love to stop having to buy weed from the cartels but until there is decent mids grown in the states my money is going towards the Mexican's mids.

[–]ismokeblunts -1 points0 points ago

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Yeah I prefer rotten fruit too because the fresh stuff just tastes too rich for me

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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texas is buying the shit outta some shwag, especially in the less metropolitan areas. since all this shit in mexico has been drying up the supply around here, i was really hoping it would lead to an increase in supply of the good shit, or at least a drop in prices. so far, neither.

[–]arthum 0 points1 point ago

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Also, the article (or another related article that was linked to from this subreddit within the past few days) mentions the extent to which these cartels have infiltrated the U.S. It's crazy when you see how far north Mexican weed travels.

[–]WowWeed[S] -1 points0 points ago

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I live in MI and Mexican shit is about all I've been able to find for almost two months now. Unfortunately, it's not as freely available in the midwest :P

[–]Hesperus -5 points-4 points ago

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That's Cali, moron. You have medical, try hangin' out in a non-medical midwest state and see what kind of flower buds flow around.

[–]Demonithese 1 point2 points ago

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wow man, no need for that. geographically i figured mexico distributed its weed through the west/southwest, i figured in this day-and-age most people who couldn't find their own good weed would just grow it.

I also figured (but hey, maybe im just a moron), that since so many people in Cali have access to good/great/amazing bud, that it would be distributed to the midwest even more efficiently than shitty mexican brickweed that has to cross the border.

[–]ismokeblunts 0 points1 point ago

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Mexico has HUGE FIELDS of marijuana and professional smugglers

[–]Hesperus 0 points1 point ago

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Yes, most of the very little good that gets around these parts was once medical somewhere.

The vast majority of the weed is shitty and most likely Mexican in origin.

[–]stupid_doesnt_sleep 5 points6 points ago

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60% of their profits come from weed. That's a shitton of money.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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This story gave me a great idea; I want to see a Mexican CSI comedy show.

[–]theoryofevrythng 0 points1 point ago

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The thumbnail makes that note look like the one in the frontispiece of House of Leaves.

[–]AppleAtrocity 0 points1 point ago

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BUY CANADIAN! We love you! Plus no one has been decapitated here over drugs lately. There was that kid riding the bus a couple years ago...so don't ride the bus.

[–]Fred_Jarvis 0 points1 point ago

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Does not phase me in the least. Wasn't my idea to declare a war on drugs. I sure as hell wouldn't volunteer to be a soldier in it. This is a case of fighting for the wrong side in a war that is never going to end because all the war in the world won't reduce the demand....demand=money and plenty of people will fight and die for that money.

Wouldn't it be better if that police chief and all the rest lay down their arms and let Mexico do what it can do like no other, grow stuff...then they can share in a HUGE economy as well and nobody has to die anymore.

Bummer to the headless cop, he made his choice.

[–]torchlit_Thompson 0 points1 point ago

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Don't mean to interrupt the nihilistic circle jerk, but I think any effort towards becoming an actively informed consumer is a good thing. If smokin' homegrown helps you sleep better at night, good for you.

We know we could economically cripple these illicit markets overnight, but too many bankers are making fortunes laundering black money, whether it comes from drugs, diamond, people; you name it.

[–]RomanSenate 0 points1 point ago

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mexican weed is shit anyway

[–]ticosurfer 0 points1 point ago

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I'm sorry to say that that will not help. It's all about the other drugs.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Buy Canadian, its better.

[–]SnowFire 0 points1 point ago

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Louis Champagne FTW!!

[–]tokenation 0 points1 point ago

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We as people need to stand up to the governments wrong notion it can tell people what they can and cannot put in there bodies, and realize that we can tell people what will happen if they hurt other people while using such substances.

[–]nello1226 0 points1 point ago

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Walmart too!

[–]Cptbeano 0 points1 point ago

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I second this...

[–]sli -2 points-1 points ago

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I'm torn between my loathing of oinkers, and this being a travesty.