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I suck at paradiddles and paradiddlediddles. is there any exercise i can do to help my muscle memory? (self.drums)
submitted 11 months ago by Spooky_Ghost
Other than practicing the diddles themselves is there anything i can practice to imbed this into my muscle memory? whenever I practice the paradiddles themselves I can never get very far before i become confused.
[–]shermanology 31 points32 points33 points 11 months ago
Yes. They are called paradiddles.
[–]xclapcorex 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
came here to say this
[–]RIPterriers 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Created an account to upvote this.
[–]grammilla 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Voted for Obama so that this sort of thing could occur.
[–]xclapcorex 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
Invented the drum so this question would be raised, so I could come here to say this.
[–]Walletau 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I hit a rock with a slightly smaller rock for the single purpose of creating sound, making it the first instrument ever played by man. With my grunts and gurgles expressing by hopes and dreams that one day something of this calibre would occur.
[–]droptune 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
hehe, I had this exact response in my head.
[–]wyget 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
WAIT! They are called paradiddles AND paradiddlediddles.
[–]neelshiv 9 points10 points11 points 11 months ago
Just start slow. It's not going to happen over night. Play slowly along with a metronome and you will get the hang of it. If somebody can't do a bicep curl with a certain weight, they don't do other exercises designed to make them better at doing bicep curls, do they? No, they just do the bicep curl with lower weight and build up their strength.
[–]neelshiv 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
I came back because I felt that I needed to amend this statement. The paradiddle is one of the most basic building blocks of advanced drum patterns, but there are a few that precede it. The most notable, and perhaps the only ones that really precede it, are the single and double stroke rolls. They form the paradiddle. If you cant get RLRRLRLL down, make sure you can get RLRLRLRL, LRLRLRLR, RRLLRRLL, and LLRRLLRR. Then start hopping from single strokes to double strokes, e.g. RLRLRLRLRRLLRRLL. The paradiddle is in there, and you will eventually become comfortable with the idea of switching from singles to doubles and back.
[–]BoleroDan 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I have to agree. paradiddles are just single and double strokes when broken down. I practiced my double stroke and single stroke rolls a lot. I was then able to transfer the technique and skills I gained from those into my paradiddles and I can make them scream. But again, start slow, you want paradiddles and the like to be as clean and even as possible.
[–]whatthepoop 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Yes, go as slow as needed, even if it's 60bpm or slower. Every single pattern I've done started that way, especially the more complex ones like two different 6-stroke patterns one after another with a 4/4 feel. At first, it's always really odd and confusing, but over time you can slowly increase the bpm until you're literally not even thinking about it: true muscle memory.
[–]discord 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
http://www.amazon.com/Stick-Control-George-Lawrence-Stone/dp/1892764040
[–]voldak 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Definitely get this book!
[–]RIPterriers 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I say this all the time, but it seriously is the closest thing to a "cheat code" to improving your chops. I've never done anything close to as effective as Stick Control.
[–]drummrboy_2002 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
is this book really that good i mean i see people on here mention it alot but ive never heard of it till r/drum and also is this a good book for beginners? im currently teaching some lessons and will start using it if it is.
YES. It's tedious as hell (in my opinion), but it is crazy how quickly it starts to improve your hands, especially for something that doesn't feel like it does much at all. It's magic, basically.
"It's magic, basically."
i like the sound of that.
[–]elbrato 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
i like this video, it has helped me a ton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZnV220egro
[–]gawbbloof 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
you can separate each hand as you do it. play a paradiddle with one hand on the pad and the other on your leg or some thing. you'll see that your hand does an accent and a diddle. practicing that can help gain muscle memory. this technique also goes well with flam accents and flam taps.
also make sure that your accenting the first note, that really helps give you a foundation of where you are in the rudiment and helps avoiding confusion when you're moving into variations. when you accent you can really hear the beat your making and let them flow from hand to hand. if you play the whole rudiment at the same dynamic it's easy to get confused in that mess of taps.
a good and extremely common exercise is the Paradiddle Pyramid. look it up on youtube. another one that can mix para-diddles and para-diddle diddles is called Paradiddle 7/8. im sure you can look that up as well.
remember to start as slow as possible and build to as fast as you can take it clean (and then go a bit beyond that) and then back down. push your tempo more and more till you can play the rudiment at any tempo. use a met!
[–]lolbacon 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
This book has a really cool approach of applying rudiments to various drum patterns. There are definitely some funky grooves to be copped from within it as well.
[–]Nebu 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I watched 6 videos of 7/8 paradiddles, but I couldn't figure out what they were doing. They never said what the sticking was, they just performed it.
[–]gawbbloof 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago
RLRR LRLL RLRRLL RLRR LRLL RLRRLL RLRRLL RLRR LRLL RLRRLL RLRR LRLL R :)
[–]pival 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
It sure is weird to practice this at work out of the blue in an open space. Thank you good sir.
[–]gawbbloof 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Eventually you'll get into a paradiddle 7/8 race with other ppl. U both start out slow, then do it double time, then slow again, then ur last time u do it you go as fast as you can and try to finish before the other guy. 7/8 Race.
[–]Nebu 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Took me 22 days, but I think I'm finally beginning to get it.
[–]gawbbloof 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Yay! Try it without the Diddles and just the accents. You can really feel the beat that way. Then put the Diddles back in. Another way not to get confused and lost
[–]McWatt 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
There is no shortcut to the various diddles, only diddlediscipline. Try starting very very slow and focusing on playing it right before you speed up.
[–]odddrums 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Slowly... [60 BPM or 1 beat per second]
PAR [R]
RA [L]
DID [R]
DIDLE [R]
PAR [L]
RA [R]
DID [L]
DIDLE [L]
[repeat]
and go steady, making each stroke with the wrist and not by opening fingers. Start with a clock going this fast, speed up slowly enough that you can do it without making a mistake. If you start messing up you're going to fast, just slow down and start back up.
Remember: What is difficult today shall be easier tomorrow with practice.
[–]kpo03001 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Sllllooooooowwwwww it down. I started (4/4) quarter notes at 60 bpm on the metronome. Do it for two minutes each day (amongst the rest of your drum practice routine), and every few days or so increase the speed by 5 bpm. Also, if no one has said it, count the para-diddle-diddles in triplets.
[–]withstereosound 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
You can even think about breaking it down into the skeleton of both the paradiddle and paradiddlediddle.
So RLR- LRL- RLR- LRL- RLRR LRLL RLRR LRLL
Paradiddlediddles, as mentioned below, are good to think of as triplets at first.
RLR-L- RLR-L- RLRRLL RLRRLL
It might help to be able to think of the individual strokes and the double strokes independently.
At the same time, you might just wake up one day and it just makes sense, but that's not without slowing it down and working your way up. It may seem tedious, but there aren't any shortcuts in drumming. Listen, practice, hard work.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
are you playing with a metronome? no matter how slow it is, it is imperative you stick to a steady loop. count out loud with your voice to keep track, "1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a 4 e and a" so you know the o"1" and "3" you start with one hand, the "2" and "4" you start the sequence with the other hand. good luck!
[–]redsnappa 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
One thing I learned that really solidified paradidles for me was to do parididdles like normal, except raise the opposide hand during the diddle part. So basically you would have your usual RLRR, and you would raise the left hand during the RR and bring it down, accented, to start the next LRLL. And once again, raise the right hand during the LL.
[–]grammilla 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
sit-ups and Adderal I guess.
[–]jedijesus 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Construct a shrine to Steve Gadd, worship upon it daily. On the 7th day at high noon you will be blessed with extreme efficiency in rudiments.
If that doesn't work practice slow and build speed. Patience.
[–]Peezor 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago*
I always get a kick(no pun intended) out of people asking how to play or practice these RUDIMENTARY drum sticking's. These are the BASIS of drumming and if you can't figure out which hand is right and which hand is left, I don't know what to say haha.
Practice slow & with a metronome. Once you feel comfortable move the BPM up 1-2 and continue. Pay attention to your grip, stick height, rebound & dynamics.
Over time you will build the muscle memory needed to play these stickings at fast speeds so don't worry about speed until you can perform the motions fluidly.
[–]clancyjr 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
No choice but to do paradiddles, but make them fun. Do the lead note of all RLRR paradiddles on the floor tom, keep the rest on the snare, put the lead Left note of the LRLL on the first rack tom. when you get that moving pretty quickly, its actually a bad ass fill. I prefer to practice my rudiments in ways like this, to keep my brain engaged. Otherwise, its just my hands, and thats not enough.
[–]givemesomelove 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Rlrr Lrll Rlrr Lrll
RlRlrr LrLrll Rlrr
LrLrll RlRlrr Lrll
RlRlRlrr LrLrLrll
R
[–]bhamby 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Break them down. Play each individual hand's part and then add the other hand in gradually. Start slow, technique is key. Use a metronome.
[–]doyle30 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
this how i did it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4KpIyyjKW8
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