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[–]discord 16 points17 points ago

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It is a fallacy that some people are just "born with it." However, people learn different things at different speeds. Some are more adept learning drumming, for example. Nobody starts out good. Just about any instrument can be mastered through practice. You just gotta put in your 10,000 hours.

[–]Shaboz 3 points4 points ago

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Not a fallacy... one of the very very few.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=2209108n

[–]nubbled21[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Incredible... Seems to be on a whole different level. Thanks for sharing.

[–]dcss 0 points1 point ago

Absolutely amazing.

[–]GeneralMillss 1 point2 points ago

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I only recently read about this "10,000 hours to be a virtuoso" thing, and it is really interesting and really motivational stuff.

[–]PieRhett 1 point2 points ago

Haha, it's not a fallacy, it's a fact. It's a hard truth. There are child prodigies out there that are much much younger than any of us, that can put us to shame.

It's like nature vs. nurture. No one knows for sure which is more important, but theres something up, still. Some kids are just born with it.

With all that said, if one is motivated and dedicated enough to drumming, they can become the best. Dont have to be a child prodigy, but damn, does it help.

[–]TroutM4n 4 points5 points ago

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As with any practiced skill, some people show a greater proclivity for the activity when starting. Being able to do different things with your limbs at the same time is a good example - like patting your head with one arm and rubbing your belly with the other.

Nothing can compare to the benefits of guided instruction and how quickly that will help you progress.

[–]thewhits 4 points5 points ago

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I think some people have better natural rhythm and and ear for music than others, but anybody can learn to be proficient playing and instrument with enough determined practice.

[–]rapezombie 3 points4 points ago

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natural rhythm is key. i don't believe that it's something that can be developed.

[–]GeneralMillss 0 points1 point ago

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See, I disagree. Everyone can tap their feet to a song. Some people are just more in tune with rhythm than others (e.x.: dancers, drummers, musicians all together) and have an easier time grasping it. Everyone knows a good drum beat when they hear it, and everyone can tell if a beat is off time. It's a matter of developing and harnessing it.

[–]Beatnik_Soiree 0 points1 point ago

Nope. Listening to someone try to play drums who has no natural sense of rhythm is like watching someone who can't dance try to dance.

[–]rapezombie 0 points1 point ago

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You're allowed to disagree but I've played with plenty of amateur drummers and there's some who do have "internalized rhythm" and those who don't. You can tell who does no matter how much they practice.

[–]NunquamDormio -1 points0 points ago

I'd agree with you, but practice never hurts.

[–]nubbled21[S] -1 points0 points ago

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That's what I have always thought. The problem is that I have amazing natural rhythm but I feel limited as far as pure coordination. I can feel and hear and beatbox and sing rhythms very well but there is something missing as far as coordinating my hands and feet on the drums. I can do it much better without sticks or pedals. For instance, I feel like I would be much better on the kick if the action was on my heel rather than my toe. Anyone pick up what I'm throwing down? Is there another way to hold the drumsticks that might ease me into it?

[–]cubine 1 point2 points ago

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A good teacher can help out with that. Key word being good. Thousands of people out there give drum lessons but a lot of them will not teach you good habits. My first teacher was alright, second one taught me straight up bad habits. It wasn't until the third try that I found a guy who really knew what he was talking about AND knew how to push me and help me develop.

[–]thebeat42 3 points4 points ago

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Practice practice practice. When I got my first kit at age seven, I couldn't do shit and it was very frustrating. At such a young age and without a teacher I didn't progress very quickly at all and I thought the drums weren't for me. It wasn't until my early teens that I really developed a passion for playing and started really putting the hours in and really trying to better myself. The most important thing is the willingness to learn coupled with the time and effort to make it happen.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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i don't think any talent like this is innate. you may call your interest a predisposition, but it really just boils down to whether you want to actually play the drums or you just like the idea of playing the drums.

bang on!

[–]kungfumastah 1 point2 points ago

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Sit your butt on the throne. You will get better. The ability to practice is a talent in and of itself, regardless of the instrument.

[–]nubbled21[S] 1 point2 points ago

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Thanks everyone! Exactly the kind of responses I was looking for. Practice it is! Hopefully I will soon be able to drum out a whole song without cringing at myself, haha.

[–]fierylungs 0 points1 point ago

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Wait, you mean most people aren't born being able to do a double-stroke roll?

[–]WayByWind 1 point2 points ago

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It's the passion and the practice. The best drummer I know couldn't count to four in rhythm seven years ago.

[–]moothemagiccow 1 point2 points ago

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nobody is born with it

get to work

[–]carusargus 1 point2 points ago

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On topic you should watch, on the very question you asked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pilLBcdSMI

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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Neil Pearte is an example of someone who is was not naturally good, but mastered it nontheless

[–]Beatnik_Soiree 1 point2 points ago

Nicely summed up.

[–]DawieKabouter 3 points4 points ago

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Being naturally talented is not the only key to success or being a great drummer. It helps getting a foot up in the beginning, but in the end everyone has to put in their hours. I would consider myself averagely talented when it comes to drums, but I do have a great passion for it. I manage to play part time in a band, we play gigs a couple times a month and get paid fairly well to do it. I am not an amazing drummer by any measure, but do enjoy it an feel I add enough value to the band that I won't be fired soon :) I think having a passion for your instrument is very important, think you are on the right track!

[–]thisisnuckinfuts 1 point2 points ago

I myself have been playing from a young age and always sort of thought I had a small amount of natural rhythmic capacity/understanding or could just feel what I was doing without being knowledgeable about it to a certain degree. Which I think can be true for any musician, singer, dancer, etc...but that never diminishes the need for constant practice no matter how good you get. If you don't use it, you will most certainly lose it.