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[–]AyeAyeCaptain 64 points65 points ago*

Tell her when she comes home today or tomorrow. She knows something is up, so biting the bullet 4-5 more months isn't going to work. Tell her you know she has been unfaithful (just like that: "I know you've cheated on me with at least 6 other guys and as recently as 5 months ago") and you can no longer continue on in the relationship. I'm sure she'll have something to say, so be prepared for tears, begging, and anger. Stick to your guns and if needed, reiterate you can't be with her anymore.

Let her know you want a paternity test done as soon as possible as that will determine how you handle some issues. Since you want to stay and help her settle no matter what, communicate that to her as well. This is something you can continue to discuss now or mention that you'll both need time to think about the logistics and talk about it in a day or so.

You might want to have a place to stay tonight if you think you'll want some space. Or maybe a buddy you can talk with after breaking it off with your GF. This totally sucks and I'm sorry for your pain. Be strong and good luck.

edit: dun goofed with the BF/GF

[–]PurpleTime[S] 8 points9 points ago

Thank you. I really appreciate the advice.

[–]scealfada 3 points4 points ago

If you need to stay at a friends house for a while, or anything like that don't be afraid to do it. It is better to be living in a different house once this happens. It doesn't matter if it's an imposition in the short term for a good friend, as they'll support you, and you will likewise be better able to support her and yourself. Once I ended up living in the same accommodation at Uni as an ex girlfriend. It was a terrible mistake, and I should have done anything I could to get out, even loosing the hundred quid I had put on the lease.

[–][deleted] 131 points132 points ago

Get a paternity test.

I dont know what your state laws are so I will only say this..

DO NOT SIGN SHIT THAT DEALS WITH THE BABY UNTIL YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT IT IS YOURS.

[–]mouth55 37 points38 points ago

Came here to say this, even if a future paternity test declares you are not the father, signing the birth certificate is considered enough to make you liable for child support payments in the future (depending on your state, of course).

[–]PenisChrist 32 points33 points ago

Yes THIS!

OP,

Whatever you do, DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING ACKNOWLEDGING PATERNITY.

When the baby is born, they're going to want you to sign off for paternity. DO NOT DO THIS.

The sad truth is, most jurisdictions are eager to not have to pay out assistance to single moms, and care little for men's rights.

Should you sign, you'll likely be STUCK with legal paternity, regardless of what later genetic testing will reveal. Fucked up, huh?

Sorry for all of the bold text - and for repeating what others have probably already said. I just feel like I'm watching someone standing at the edge of a volcano.

[–]Mephistia 9 points10 points ago

My dad is a lawyer who specializes in family/ civil law. He always refers to non-genetic fathers signing the birth certificate as a "cheap adoption." He had 3 different clients (that I know of) who chose to do to this, knowing they weren't the father. I always thought it was the dumbest thing a guy could do to himself ever. My dad told me he tried to talk them out of it, but sometimes you just can't fix stupid.

[–]PenisChrist 2 points3 points ago

I knew a guy like this - worked with him when I was a younger man.

He basically had good reason to believe the child his "girlfriend" was carrying wasn't his. Apparently she was quite the slam pig.

This guy was kind of a mess. In hindsight I'm pretty sure he was still "using" - had been a street kid for awhile, came from a dysfunctional home, etc. He pretty much told me outright, that he just wanted a family badly. To have "people." It was really sad.

He married the broad.

Acknowledged the child.

Was separated from her within a year.

Last time I saw him he looked like shit. Wouldn't be surprised if he's dead.

Sorry for the fucked tale. But maybe these guys your dad represented (who defied sound advice) were of a similar mind to my sad, sad former co-worker. Or just desperate to not lose everything they'd invested themselves into.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 8 points9 points ago

Thanks for the advice guys. I won't sign anything until paternity is determined.

[–]PenisChrist 0 points1 point ago

Good to hear!

Happy new year!

[–]PurpleTime[S] 1 point2 points ago

Thank you, same to you!

Also, love the user name :D

[–]PurpleTime[S] 4 points5 points ago

That is very good advice. Thank you.

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[–]briaaaaaaaaaaaaaan 10 points11 points ago

the fuck is wrong with you?

[–]shmacky 3 points4 points ago

What did they say? It's deleted.

[–]vlad003 7 points8 points ago

Even if the kid isn't yours. Why the hell would you do that to him? You're ruining his entire life, and he didn't even do anything to deserve it.

[–]Overlord1317 28 points29 points ago

Attorney here. This ain't legal advice.

1.)What state do you live in? In California, you may have rights under palimony laws or as a putative spouse. Complicated situation you need to consult an attorney about.

2.)You need to get going on custody issues. She may vanish with the child, she may forbid you access absent a court order, etc. Assuming you want a relationship with the child, might as well start working on it now.

3.)Your rights as a father have nothing to do with your being with her, except (of course) that your custody is going to be limited by whatever court order comes along or whatever your arrangement is with the mother.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 7 points8 points ago

We're in Indiana, but I have a California Drivers license. Not sure how that factors into things...

Question: Right now I'm thinking I'm going to have to maybe move back in with my parents (in CA) temporarily. Just so I can get back on my feet. If the baby is mine, will the court order me to stay in the same state as Mom and child?

[–]sasarahmichelle 25 points26 points ago

Consult an attorney in the state where the mother is before you move. You leaving the state could potentially be construed as abandonment and used against you later. Think about all of these big decisions and discuss with a lawyer first. Like I said, this shit can get really ugly, even if both parents aren't crazy or mean people.

[–]tidderor 7 points8 points ago

Usually restrictions on moving come into play only when one parent wants to move with the child and thereby would be interfering with the other parent's visitation. Generally, as the father you are free to choose not to participate in your child's life at all, and can go wherever you want to go, so long as you're not trying to take the child with you.

To the extent that you want visitation, living across the country will make it both practically and legally more difficult. See a lawyer as soon as you can.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 0 points1 point ago

Thank you so much for the advice.

[–]tidderor 5 points6 points ago

Best of luck dealing with a difficult situation; my heart goes out to you.

Please keep in mind that as bad as her actions are, she's about to be a mother of a newborn, who is quite possibly your son. You want her to be able to deal with your breakup before the birth; she needs to be prepared for the possibility that you may have no role in raising this child if it's not yours, and that even if it is yours, the two of you still won't be raising him together as she's currently anticipating. The decent thing to do is to tell her right away so that she can get her ducks in a row and figure out how she's going to manage being a single mom before the baby is born.

[–]Overlord1317 1 point2 points ago*

I cannot think of any Court that will order you to stay in the same state as the child, although if you are awarded some measure of custody the Court will likely order you to keep THE CHILD within a certain geographic area. I.e.: don't take the kid out of Indiana when it's in your custody. This is essentially a de facto requirement that you live in Indiana to exercise your custody rights. This causes a lot of anguish and stress amongst parents, who find themselves for economic reasons ostracized from their children or forced to fly in to visit. What can make the problem even worse is when the primary custodial parent DOES NOT have a geographic restriction ... she can take the kid wherever she wants.

When people have palimony/putative spouse questions, these are some of the items that are relevant:

1.)Did you hold yourselves out as married, as life partners, etc.

2.)Did you forego a job, career, or make major life decisions that prejudiced your economic independence with the explicit promise that you would be supported from her earnings. What were the promises? Exactly?

3.)Are you now screwed financially because you relied upon her promises?

I'm quite a few years removed from community property work (and I don't think Indiana is a community property state), so, as always, consult an attorney who practices in this arena in the area where you'll be litigating.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 0 points1 point ago

I see. Thanks for the info!

[–]lalit008 11 points12 points ago

Question...why do lawyers on here always say "this is not legal advice" before basically giving them legal advice?

[–]idratherusethephone 46 points47 points ago

Because lawyers know how much of a pain in the ass it is to get sued.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 10 points11 points ago

haha was going to say the same thing. :)

[–]jayesanctus 22 points23 points ago

So they can't get sued for malpractice.

[–]Overlord1317 0 points1 point ago

I could tell you, but that might constitute legal advice.

[–]loolwat 0 points1 point ago

Lawyer says not giving legal advice. GIVES LEGAL ADVICE.

[–]Overlord1317 0 points1 point ago

Indeed.

[–]corporatehuman 14 points15 points ago

Wow that's a confusing situation, so I see why you are rambling. I think the first thing is to encourage her to get a test to see if the baby is yours? That really changes everything and I don't see how you can make decisions until that is known.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 2 points3 points ago

That's a good solid point to start at I guess. Thanks for the advice :)

[–]guisar 3 points4 points ago

Is it really good advice? Is the origin of the child really of concern? Do you want to raise a child with a woman who has and will continue to have affairs- and not be careful while she's doing it (STD, etc in additional to children).

I think these are the important questions. The paternity would mean, at worst, child support. You are better separating if that's what you ultimately think is best, now as much before the child is born as possible. Do not wait if this is your decision, the more you wait the more liable you are for the child whether or not it's yours. A paternity would release you but she might not even want it- she may just want to leave. Are the rest of the guys going to be subpeoned and tested to see if they need to expose their affair and pay child support (maybe 2x + alimony if they are married) for the next 23 years?

There is a lot of shit going on and all of it is very sticky and smelly. If that's what you want- cool. Otherwise, do NOT be the good guy. You will get fucked in the process. Fucked for a nearly a quarter of a century. If you get married, maybe for the rest of your life.

My advice: run. Even if it is your kid, you will get fucked through a bad marriage, financial strains and so on. She's not committed and never will be.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 2 points3 points ago

Very good point. Thanks so much for the advice.

[–]Aeras4109 10 points11 points ago

First and foremost, do not apologize for "rambling". You're freaked out and wanting help. It's completely understandable. As for the baby, you definitely need to get a paternity test BEFORE the baby is born. Like people said, don't sign shit. Now, even if the baby is in fact yours, aside from disappearing with the baby, I don't think she'd be able cut you out of the babies life if you wanted to be in it. I would think she'd have to get full custody of the child first. But this is something you need to talk to her about very soon. If the baby isn't yours, you have no obligation to stay.

Basically though, you need to tell her that the two of you can't work anymore. 6 years together and she betrayed your trust and disrespected you. Trust and respect are part of the foundation for couples. And it's possible you may have to move back home (parents maybe? friends?), unless you can find a job and a place to live cheap. To answer a question; should you wait until the baby is born to end things?: No, no, NO! Prolonging the end will only complicate things and make them more painful in the end. Not sure what else to say, but good luck.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 1 point2 points ago

Got it. Thank you so much for the advice.

[–]sasarahmichelle 10 points11 points ago

I feel compelled to point out that this advice is not entirely accurate. Because you two are not married, and depending on the state, she will likely automatically have full and total custody of the baby when it is born. This means that she can tell you to fuck off until a judge signs off on a custody order. It can take months to get a court date, and leaving the state in the mean time could make things tricky. That is why it's important to start the legal process right now. It's important for fathers to have the opportunity to bond with the baby from the beginning. I just wanted to clarify. Don't assume you have any rights until you have an official court order. Not being married makes a huge difference in most states.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 0 points1 point ago

I see. Thank you.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points ago

Do you know for sure that she cheated? I mean absolutely certain. Cover all of your bases before doing anything at all. You could end up not getting to see the baby at all if you piss her off (pregnant women are crazy).

If you know for sure, tell her ASAP. Just make sure it's a mature conversation, at least on your part. Calmly explain what you know and that you will not remain in the relationship any more. Normally youd have every right to yell, scream, anything, but if that baby is yours an you want to be in it's life at all, try not to get her that angry. I know it isn't fair and if the cheating is true she deserves plenty of yelling coming her way, but think about the kind of relationship you want with that child.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 5 points6 points ago

Yes I do know this for sure.

And yeah, I don't want to be hurtful toward her, even though she may deserve it. She is headed toward a life as a single mom after all...

[–]geek_in_a_suit 7 points8 points ago

From your post, you seem like a very understanding and accommodating guy. Don't take this the wrong way but being that particular type of nice guy right now is going to hurt you in this situation. So lets say you stick it out until you guys move, then stick it out until the baby is born, then wait until maternity is over for her, then wait until she gets a baby sitter... It won't end man. There will always be a reason for you to stay. You need to do what is best for you. If your gut and logic is telling you to leave. You need to grab your balls and do it. Pull that bandaid off quickly and move on.

i agree with what whycomeugotnotattoo said. Make sure you do not accept responsibility for anything until you know the baby is yours. Goodluck.

[–]junegloom 14 points15 points ago

How did you find out about all these affairs at once?

[–]JustAnAvgJoe 23 points24 points ago

you can establish paternity before the child is born.

[–]notpersephone 15 points16 points ago

The only way to determine paternity prior to birth is through Chorionic villus sampling or amniocentesis, both of which are expensive and risky to the baby. A doctor is not likely to perform these tests without medical reason.

[–]smacksaw 11 points12 points ago

Not worth the risk or expense.

[–]pewpew123 5 points6 points ago

I just wanted to say good luck man. That shit's fucked up for sure. You don't have to answer but if you want to answer that's cool, I'd like to know out of curiosity how'd you find out about her 6 "affairs"? Good luck man and my only piece of advice would be don't take any major decisions when you're angry.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 1 point2 points ago

Basically someone eventually approached me with a "he said that she said that he said that she said" story, and once I started looking into a bit more, tracking rumors down to their origins and confronting people, everything just kinda unraveled and came out in the open.

[–]junegloom 1 point2 points ago

That is really shitty, someone cheating that often with that little self control means a lot of friends probably saw things and just left you in the dark. I'm sorry so many people espouse "don't get involved" when they see those things.

[–]sasarahmichelle 8 points9 points ago*

I honestly don't know how you go about this breakup. My best advice is to try to do it calmly and as reasonably as you can. If this child is yours, you need to remember throughout every future interaction with her that your behavior could potentially be used against you in court. Gather information about what is happening and what you know. If you want partial custody, keep that from being vindictive. As far as your rights, you should seek council. I don't know where you live, and that is the main factor. Find an attorney in family law and get started on protecting your rights. Because you're not married you will quite possibly have to get all that established through the court. It can take time start it now. This kind of thing can get very ugly and bring out the worst in people (fighting over children in court), so try to let your behavior toward this woman be motivated by your child's well-being over your justified pain. It will not make anything any easier to hold on to resentment and make her suffer. If you're set on breaking up, a clean and civil break will make your life so much easier and less painful once the baby is born and you have to see her every week to hand off the child.

Edit: Also, I'm really sorry that you're in this situation. I was cheated on and broken up with when I got pregnant and it fucking sucks. But it gets better, especially once you're able to forgive and move on. This isn't a normal breakup, so holding on to grudges can be suffocating. Good luck to you.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 4 points5 points ago

Thank you for the advice.

The last thing I want is a big messy fight and all that. I have no intention of trying to take custody away from her, I just want to make sure I can at least visit regularly if it is mine.

[–]Vespite 4 points5 points ago

Does she have parents? You can put all of this in their hands, since having her settle and whatnot is not your responsibility. Definitely go for getting a pat test first and foremost. If she doesn't want to, just get her to understand your reasons and leave to go live with your parents for a while. With no Pat test, she can't do anything legal to you. I would get it in writing/recording somehow that you requested the test so that if she nails you with abandonment (if the child turns out to be your's) you can prove to the judge that it was her who wasn't cooperating, not you.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 1 point2 points ago

Yeah her mom lives about 2 hours away. I think regardless if the child is mine or not I'm going to try and convince her to move closer to her mother.

[–]saraoflaherty 1 point2 points ago

So if the child is yours, you really want to drive 2 hours every other weekend, plus alternating holidays for visitation?

[–]smacksaw 2 points3 points ago

Watch this short clip so you'll know where I'm coming from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AAP7zORyWA

If you stay, you're accepting cuckold training. She isn't marriage material. Maybe someday she might be, but not now.

Even if it's your kid, this isn't the kind of woman you want to be moving forward with. The last thing you want is extra complication in your life. She can't control herself and having a kid will make her more desperate, not settle her down.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 0 points1 point ago

Thanks for the clip. You can always count on The Simpsons to cheer you up. :)

Yeah I think she's made it more than clear that this will never work out.

[–]joshtempte 2 points3 points ago

I feel really sad for you. I can't begin to figure out how to offer advice but wanted you to know that I wish you the best of luck. Just remember, everything will work out.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 1 point2 points ago

Thank you. I appreciate the encouragement. :)

[–]lunahlove 2 points3 points ago

Out of curiosity, assuming you find out the child is yours, how involved do you want to bein his life? Would you try to get joint custody, visitation rights, anything?

[–]Kozbot 2 points3 points ago

definitely get a paternity test. Don't do the right thing and support the child if its not yours. Burden her with her mistake and laugh as she wallows in despair.

[–]Readmynameandchillax 2 points3 points ago

Hey man, really sorry to hear about what she has done to you. You've got to be in a lot of pain right now. There's a lot of advice on here to take in, some good, some not so good, I'll have to leave it to you to figure out what's best for you. You seem like a really good guy, and she's obviously been taking advantage of that for years. Sorry to be blunt but she doesn't respect you at all. You need to get out now. If you wait the whole situation will become intolerable for both of you. Just lay out the facts to her at the earliest opportunity and tell her it's over. If the baby is yours you want to be a father to it. If not, then you're gone. Don't leave even the merest sliver of a chance that you might be able to get over it. You're done. The sooner she accepts that the better for everyone. She's going to be very upset, cheats usual stoop to emotional blackmail as a default position, and then she's going to try to put the blame on you. Stay calm and resolute. You might want to approach her parents and let them know it's over. If you want to go into details with them it's up to you. But do it soon. And the very best of luck to you.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 0 points1 point ago*

Thank you. And you're right, I'm definitely not sticking around if I'm not the father.

[–]Readmynameandchillax 1 point2 points ago

I think that's absolutely the right decision. I'm guessing the two of you weren't using protection, the only question is was she using it with the other guys?

[–]PurpleTime[S] 0 points1 point ago

I doubt that she was. She was on the pill and apparently she missed a day. Hence the pregnancy.

But I'm definitely going to get myself checked out just in case.

[–]Readmynameandchillax 1 point2 points ago

Definitely a good idea to get yourself checked out as soon as you can, just for your own peace of mind. She probably ought to get checked too, if you still care about.

This is a really shitty situation man, I'm really sorry. I've been through something a little similar myself. All I can say is that these things often work out for the better. They did for me, I hope they do for you too. Good luck!

[–]lovewillmove 2 points3 points ago

Stay strong my friend. I can tell from your words that you are a genuinely good person, I believe you are on the right track and know what steps need to be taken. Don't let her hurt you anymore, and if the baby does turn out to be yours, have you you thought about trying to fight for sole custody?

[–]PurpleTime[S] 1 point2 points ago

I've been thinking about that, but I'm not sure if that's what I want to do. I think that regardless of what she's done to me, this is still her child also and I don't think I could bring myself to take that away from her.

Ever since we found out we've both been very excited. She's always wanted a kid and I very highly doubt she'll want to run away or give it up or something. I really do think she'll be a great mother, just not a great mother I want to be with anymore.

[–]lovewillmove 2 points3 points ago*

Thanks for being such a good person. It shows a lot about your character that you're being so level headed about this. I have no worries for you or the baby as I believe that you will do what is right for both you and the baby when the time comes. You have my support and respect.

[–]PurpleTime[S] 1 point2 points ago

Thank you. I really appreciate the encouragement. :)

[–]Keshyngul 1 point2 points ago

1) Break up with her. Tell her you know about her multiple affairs, don't get drawn into petty unrelated issues in the inevtiable fighting. Whether or not the child is yours, your SO has shown they are not some one you should be with.

2) Don't sign a single thing until the paternity test. If the kid is not yours, grab your shit and walk away. If the kid is yours, be a good father despite your SO's actions.

[–]InfallibleBiship 2 points3 points ago

You're going to have to get the courage to do it. Don't take too long, it's got to be killing you. You really should end things before the baby is born, anyway. As it is, you're leaving your girlfriend. If you leave after the baby is born, you're leaving your girlfriend and your child. Besides, if you're there when the baby's born, they'll put your name down as the father. See a lawyer about the parental rights issue. Expect her to try to get child support, even if you're not working.

[–]chuldah 3 points4 points ago

"they" can't put his name on the birth certificate unless he is her husband. Paternity can't legally be established for an unborn child but DNA testing might indicate whether OP is excluded from parentage for the child. Another poster suggested OP not sign anything regarding parentage of the child without paternity testing and this is important as parentage documents in most states have the same force and effect as court orders and say this on them. If after paternity testing after birth of the child you are the bio father you have rights and you also have responsibilities. You really need to speak with an attorney once a test indicates you're not excluded as father and if you are no longer with the mother.

[–]aresef 1 point2 points ago

Call Maury Povich?

[–]photogc 1 point2 points ago

This will be buried but I hope by chance you stumble upon this and know that you should totally record the conversation when you confront her. It may be the only proof you have when she confesses and apologizes that is solid evidence. It may become helpful later on to settle out of court in any legal matters that may come up.

Especially if they try to spin it as if you just ran off.

[–]friskynarwhal 1 point2 points ago

Do you know about how she would react to you finding out? Would she snap?

It seems like the best idea, emotionally and legally, would be to approach her ASAP and let her know that you know about the cheating and will can no longer be in a relationship with her. After getting that out in the open, it seems like you can get a feel for how everything will need to be handled. Obviously you'll want some real legal advice and documentation, but it seems like you can get a better plan in motion after you know how much of a fight or non-fight she'll be putting up.

Have you thought about living with her until she's able to have the child or is that just not going to be a possibility? You said her mom lives fairly close, would you be able to get any kind of support from her?

[–]devioustrevor 0 points1 point ago

If I was in this situation, I'd just leave. They're not married and then onus will be on her to prove OP in the father. He mentioned moving back in with his parents, so she should know how to get into contact with him. When he talks with her, he just needs to tell her to get into contact with the men she's been whoring around with. If none of them are the father then he'd return long enough for a paternity test.

If the child is his, he can always move back to be closer.

There is a risk this way I concede. If he does it this way, and she knows he found out about the affairs, there is always the chance that even if the child is his she'd never let him know.

One of my aunts had a baby with a man she was in a failing relationship with. When she found out she was pregnant, she didn't tell him and told him she hasn't been happy for awhile and has been cheating on him. This caused him to leave, when he did she moved three counties away. That may not sound like much, but the part of Canada I live in most of the nearby counties are bigger than the state of Rhode Island, so it is quite the distance. She had the child and to this day I don't think the father knows.

[–]Bobsutan 0 points1 point ago

PATERNITY TEST!!!!

If you have even an inkling it's not yours the odds are there's about a 30% chance it's not. Before you sign anything, get that damn test!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

something that has helped me in a tough paternity situation is to keep in mind that her emotional state today is not the one she will always have. i've learned to confront her when needed and then let the storm blow itself out. we will be in each other's lives for the rest of our lives even though we are not in a Relationship. we have plenty of time for some ups and downs.

if the baby is yours and you want to do your part she won't cut you out of her life. trust me, raising a child alone is scary and beyond taxing. if you are the father and willing to help she will absolutely want you in her corner no matter what she says now.

prenatal paternity test options are available...