Is this normal for coming off Paleo or should I be concerned?

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Thanks for the follow up :) the symptoms went away so I'm putting it down to a bug or diet change. I'm planning on paying for a medical with a blood test in the next few months though.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

I know, I'm not trying to justify the last week as healthy, it was a holiday. I'm asking if I should be burning up and gaining a pound a day. It's possible I was consuming 3500 calories above BMR + activity per day, but I doubt it - that's somewhere around 6000 calories per day.

Given the amount of weight gain I'm assuming I actually did manage to eat few enough carbs to hit water drop last time, and that came back. That means I actually put on around 4 lbs in the 40 days, which sucks :(

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

I was travelling all day yesterday so it was sporadic eating (soup on the plane, a burger mid drive). Today I've been eating crap - a chicken baguette early afternoon, half a frozen pizza mid afternoon, few jelly babies, and a roast dinner (beef, Yorkshire pudding, broccoli, gravy, mash).

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Now you mention it no I wasn't. I had four sticks of broccoli one day, and a couple of lettuce leaves another, but aside from that it was almost exclusively meat and sauces.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

It wasn't a glass, the days I did it I drank two litres sometimes. And ate lots of nuts and fruit (sometimes dried).

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Hey, thanks for the reply. I submitted a response to you here but I got confused by the mobile interface and submitted it top level instead.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

It's been going on for about 4 days now. Normal day was eat around 1pm, mostly beef, fish, chicken. Some chips (fries) but I'm talking 10. There were a variety of sauces on the meats. Plate was full but I rarely had a dessert or anything. I'd have that with 500ml to a litre of water. Sometimes I might have a small glass of pineapple juice.

Next meal around 8-9pm and pretty much the same food except I might have a couple of scoops of ice cream afterwards (usually not).

Between the two meals I'd probably have a bottle of water, a couple of coffees and a cocktail. After the second meal I'd probably have half a dozen cocktails or alcoholic coffees, and about a litre and a half of water. I wouldn't eat again until the morning.

I was abroad (Greece) but the temperature was mostly below 20c and there were very few mosquitoes about so I doubt it's either of those.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

I just ate when I was hungry, although occasionally I did skip a couple of hours just because I couldn't be bothered cooking. Also fruit juice kept the water weight on so that's something to consider. I think Paleo-ish is the way to go, but I'm going back to weighing daily and adding some carbs so I can exercise.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Thanks a lot for your advice. I guess that loss is just 4 weeks of progress and a couple of weeks of maintaining which isn't too bad. Also Paleo comes with a 7lb ish water weight drop, which I obviously didn't hit due to fruit intake, so if I think of it that way I'm not too far off. I didn't measure calories, I will next time. At least I didn't gain ;) I was just a bit upset this morning that's all. Thanks again.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Thanks, I'll try calorie counting next time :)

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Thanks. I've done Paleo with calorie counting before and it always came below so this time I didn't bother, I guess I just messed up. I'm not interested in Keto unless it's done with Paleo. I don't want a new fad diet (I may get flames for this) and a sharp weight drop, I'd much rather have a slower drop with a natural Paleo diet I can keep up afterwards.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

I'll read it, thanks for the advice. A lot of people seem to have misunderstood my fasting. It wasn't deliberate at all, I just debt feel hungry some days so I hardly ate. I wasn't attempting intermittent fasting or anything like that. As for the fruit juice, I thought that as long as it was just fruit it was okay. I was wrong, I'll do better next time. People seem to be downvotobg and ridiculing me and I'm not sure why, I was only asking for advice and saying my 40 days was a waste of time. I wasn't trying to say Paleo was.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Thanks for the advice. I'll try a no fruit version next time.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

It's not carb recovery I struggled with so much as when I went to the gym (CV and weights) I felt physically ill if I hadn't had any carbs that day (I had to lie down in the changing rooms on the floor for 20 minutes before I could stand up). That's what I want to avoid. I want to take up running outside, and a bit of convict conditioning or SS. I didn't do anything this time, it was simply a diet experiment.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Thanks and sorry for the slow reply. I fought fruit juice was frowned upon because it usually contained added sugar and chemicals, sorry I thought decent stuff would be okay. I live and learn. I'll cut juice out and limit fruit next time.

As for my target, I'm 5'10, now 203.5lbs and I want to get to around 175lbs.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Thanks. Measuring carbs and calories is obviously a must next time.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Really good advice, thank you. I'm taking a half break from this for a couple of weeks, then I'm going to see what I can do by June. I'll keep you posted, although the constant downvotes and a few insults make me hesitant to ever use this particular subreddit again.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Hi Feckless. I used to weigh daily and had some success, this was just an experiment. Exercise was limited due to me feeling sick last time I tried it due to low carb - it was just a 40 day experiment. I'm taking two weeks off, then hitting it with running, balanced Paleo plus rice I think.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Thanks for the response. I wasn't taking this as a fad diet or a quick weight loss solution. I've tried it and over diets before. I've tried exercising, I've tried weighing weekly, daily and now 40-daily. This was just another experiment with my body to see what works. I'm still 18lbs down from my heaviest. I also accept that healthy eating will be a way of life, but a deficit won't. Things will change. I'm hoping to eventually end up on a mostly organic Paleo-ish natural diet, but with more carbs (rice). I need to lose weight first though.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

What are you talking about? If I don't weigh myself for six weeks, and despite never cheating on a diet only lose a fifth of what I was hoping, am I not allowed to be a little upset and pissed off?

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Sorry for the delay. I ate unlimited in that if I was hungry I ate. Whenever I had some grassfed steak or whatever I had it for evening meal, bit aside from that I broke out of meals completely and ended up grazing. Some days I'd have breakfast, others might not eat for 6 hours, then just a handful of nuts and nothing else. Other days I'd have loads of fruit (turns out this and orange juice was my problem). I just ate whenever I was hungry; no deliberate limitations.

I was generally happier unless I was hungry, then I got stressed and short with people and it seemed to happen instantly. Food wise I was okay with but I still crave red bull and sugar (thanks to the fruit). I probably drank 2-3 litres of water most days, but it came straight back out and in the mornings I'd be so dehydrated I felt like I had tonsillitis. I think this is because without carbs your body can't hold water.

I didn't exercise except a little bit of walking. This is because when I've tried before on Paleo, the low carb/sugar has made me feel physically sick when exercising.

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

Thanks, that's really good advice. It's too easy to think that one bad day ruins a week of progress. As for running, I got some minimalist shoes today and I'm going to give it a try. The next two weeks are mine though :) on holiday for a week so I'll be aware of what I'm eating but I'm not sticking to any regime

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

I mistakenly assumed that the low carb aspect of Paleo would limit my calories to less than BMR (it has in the past when I've been measuring but not controlling)

getfitcrocodile · 1 month

My BMR is around 2800 calories a day I think. I thought I was consuming less than 1800 on average (some days were obviously higher). I must have miscalculated. I might try it again with calorie counting, or I might try high protein IF.

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